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  • Asking for permission to ride the Slapdsash with 187lb / 85kg

    I know this is a wired question. I'm 69inch / 176cm with 187lb / 85kg and think the Slapdash would be the perfect skiboard for me.

    The skiboard selection table states that I'm out of range for the Slapdash (BWP) on all conditions. Maximum weight here stated is 185 pounds. This makes me asking that question.

    The reason why I consider the Slapdash is that I had the most fun and most relaxed ride on my old Fischer Web XXL which are quite similar to the Slapdash

    Data of the Web XXL:
    - Length 99cm
    - Sidecut 130-110-130
    - Radius: 7m

    I can turn super fast, go very fast straight, can carve on black groomers, use every little bump as a jumping opportunity, having fun on badly prepared slopes or on fresh snowed groomers and even can do some light powder adventures next to the slope.

    I also have a pair of 110cm DLP/ALP and also like it a lot. However, those are not as easy to turn as the Fischer. On a woods trail, I was not able to follow the same line as I did with the Fischer. I do not see any advantages compared to the Fischer for me.

    On the last skiing trip, I tried some 130cm GPO Softrocker Twin Tip Skis which definitely made me aware that I do not like longer Skis. I was able to ride the Fischer faster and harder with less effort. The ability with Skiboards to skid sideways is great. The Skis do not allow riding sideways...

    So what do you think. Should I give the Slapdash a try, or should I go bigger (e.g. KPT or the Revolt)?

    Another concern might be the short radius. I think, the short radius will be a lot of fun for me

    PS: I was able to get a very good deal on Blunt XLs. I have not yet ridden them. But I think I'm covered for those rare Powder Days...

  • #2
    I think you will have no issues with the Slapdash except float in soft snow but you have that already covered with your other boards. If you want a sub 100cm narrower, manuervable board , I would say go for it. While I have never ridden the Slapdash, I have a pair of Line Bullets which are even narrower and shorter that are super fun and manueverable on piste
    Boards :
    Blunt Xl, DLP, Spliff, Condor, Rockered Condor , Slingshot, Sherpa, Icelantic Shaman
    Boots
    K2 BFC 100 Grip walk sole , Dynafit CR Radical AT boot, Ride Insano Snowboard boots
    Bindings:
    Zero Pro Non release Binding
    Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
    Spruce Riser with Attack 14 GW /AT binding
    Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)
    Rocker and Sbol Soft Boot Bindings.

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    • #3
      They'd be worth a try. You're not far out of the weight range so I don't think it'd be much of an issue there. I hadn't heard of this selection table until now...

      The other board that looks comparable in specs to your Fischers is the Sticky Icky Icky. It's a bit longer than the Fischers at 104 cm but width and turn radius are comparable. I just got my hands on my first pair of SIIs and haven't ridden them yet, but Spliffs are my favorite all-round board and I'm a bit fan of the rocker/camber combination. They might be another option to consider, and might give you a bit more float on days where you're getting into a bit of powder but not enough to commit to the Blunts.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Steeps View Post
        They'd be worth a try. You're not far out of the weight range so I don't think it'd be much of an issue there. I hadn't heard of this selection table until now...

        The other board that looks comparable in specs to your Fischers is the Sticky Icky Icky. It's a bit longer than the Fischers at 104 cm but width and turn radius are comparable. I just got my hands on my first pair of SIIs and haven't ridden them yet, but Spliffs are my favorite all-round board and I'm a bit fan of the rocker/camber combination. They might be another option to consider, and might give you a bit more float on days where you're getting into a bit of powder but not enough to commit to the Blunts.
        Thanks. I did not have the SII on my radar until now. Sounds very interesting. Although I do not know if I like the rocker/camber combination. Have that on my GPO 130 cm Twin Tips which I do not like. But that could be due to the length or the narrow shape (120-80-108).




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        • #5
          Originally posted by jjue View Post
          I think you will have no issues with the Slapdash except float in soft snow but you have that already covered with your other boards. If you want a sub 100cm narrower, manuervable board , I would say go for it. While I have never ridden the Slapdash, I have a pair of Line Bullets which are even narrower and shorter that are super fun and manueverable on piste
          Thanks!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by FakeCondor View Post
            Thanks. I did not have the SII on my radar until now. Sounds very interesting. Although I do not know if I like the rocker/camber combination. Have that on my GPO 130 cm Twin Tips which I do not like. But that could be due to the length or the narrow shape (120-80-108).
            I've really liked the combination on the Spliffs... My home mountain almost always has some softer snow (if not always untouched powder) near the top, as our alpine temperatures usually stay fairly cold, combined with a lot more hard pack, poor grooming and sometimes ice on the lower half of the mountain. The camber keeps up the carving performance but the tip rocker gives me full confidence to charge into powder or chopped-up snow without worrying about catching a tip. I have a set of DLPs which are great on hard snow, but I have trouble keeping the tips up when things get deep or inconsistent.

            The Stickies have a bit less rocker than the Spliffs, so I'll be interested to see how they perform. With the reduced length and width compared to the Spliffs, I'm expecting easier carving and quicker turns, a bit less float, but some of that powder transition confidence. I'll report back on them once I get the chance to put them through their paces.

            I'm glad you've got a pair of Blunt XLs to play with. Bert (on the forum) lives in my general area and he absolutely rips on Blunts, even on dodgy hardpack. I've got Playmakers, and the fully rockered boards are a ton of fun to ride, as long as you master the technique of slarving. They won't usually carve hard snow like a full camber will. On the other hand, with sharp edges, the way that full rocker boards keep the pressure immediately underfoot allows precise control in difficult situations, with the confidence to ride out through patches of powder.




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            • #7
              Originally posted by Steeps View Post
              NICE!!!!!

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              • #8
                Upon reading the title of this thread, my initial thought was to recommend you try the DLP. However, after reading all the info you provided, I think the Slapdash is exactly what you're looking for. Don't let some arbitrary number stop you, we all have different preferences. The Slapdash is very close to the Fischer Web XXL and I bet it will perform similarly if not better. And if the snow gets too deep, you already have other boards to handle that. The KTP would work too. The Sticky Icky Icky, I am not so sure about. I have never ridden them but I notice a very significant difference in "feel" between traditional cambered boards and boards that have some rocker. It is much more pronounced than on skis. But then again, that's just me, you might be different.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FakeCondor View Post
                  Thanks. I did not have the SII on my radar until now. Sounds very interesting. Although I do not know if I like the rocker/camber combination. Have that on my GPO 130 cm Twin Tips which I do not like. But that could be due to the length or the narrow shape (120-80-108).
                  The SII are nothing like a longboard, not sure how those GPO behave, but my favourite boards are the Spruce 125cm and the SII ski much shorter than that. Because of the rocker they probably ski shorter than their actual length would lead you to think. The rocker should also smoothen up the transitions between hardpack and piled up snow. You probably have noticed such transition with the ALPs.

                  Originally posted by FakeCondor View Post
                  So what do you think. Should I give the Slapdash a try, or should I go bigger (e.g. KPT or the Revolt)?
                  Another concern might be the short radius. I think, the short radius will be a lot of fun for me
                  I didn't had the chance to try the Slapdash, but rode both SII and KTPs, and I think the question you need to ask yourself is what style of riding do you prefer ? They are both agile, both have short turn radius, both have a setback option, the difference is in riding style. The SIIs will bring precise carving practically at all times, they don't slarve much or at all, especially on hardpack, while the KTPs will provide by default a relaxed, in control slarve and will carve harder if & when you ride more aggressively and put them on edge.
                  Myself: RVL8 2011 KTP, Spruce 125 LE, RVL8 "Drooling Clouds" RCs, Spruce 2016 Osprey
                  Daughter: Twoowt Pirania 95cm; RVL8 2015 Blunt XL; RVL8 2021 SII; Spruce Crossbows
                  Past: RVL8 2010 Revolt Trees, RVL8 2014 Condor, RVL8 2009 ALPdors, Spruce 120 Yellow/Red

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by newbie2011 View Post

                    The SII are nothing like a longboard, not sure how those GPO behave, but my favourite boards are the Spruce 125cm and the SII ski much shorter than that. Because of the rocker they probably ski shorter than their actual length would lead you to think. The rocker should also smoothen up the transitions between hardpack and piled up snow. You probably have noticed such transition with the ALPs.
                    Yep, you have to know when you change from hardback to soft snow with the ALPs and the Fischer's to avoid an unintended Superman.

                    Originally posted by newbie2011 View Post

                    I didn't had the chance to try the Slapdash, but rode both SII and KTPs, and I think the question you need to ask yourself is what style of riding do you prefer ? They are both agile, both have short turn radius, both have a setback option, the difference is in riding style. The SIIs will bring precise carving practically at all times, they don't slarve much or at all, especially on hardpack, while the KTPs will provide by default a relaxed, in control slarve and will carve harder if & when you ride more aggressively and put them on edge.
                    Thanks a lot. I had to lookup the term "slarve", as I did not know what it means. I think I'm more of a slarve-style rider. That is why I do no like my 130 cm GPO short rocker skis. The GPOs mostly go always in the direction those are pointed too.

                    So many thanks. I will see if there comes up a good deal on favourable Slapdashs or KTPs.

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                    • #11
                      Just ordered the Slapdash on Skiboardsonline.com. Next Ski-Vacation is planned in March. I'll let you know how the Slapdash are doing.

                      (Also I'm selling some stuff now including the GPOs with Touring-Bindings, some brand new Eman Uprise with releasable bindings, a my DLP/ALPs. All in the Buy/Sell Forum. I'll keep the Fischer Web XXL)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by FakeCondor View Post
                        Next Ski-Vacation is planned in March.
                        Speaking about March, there's an Euroshredfest planned for March in Andorra, not sure if you have noticed https://forums.skiboardsonline.com/f...shredfest-2024
                        Myself: RVL8 2011 KTP, Spruce 125 LE, RVL8 "Drooling Clouds" RCs, Spruce 2016 Osprey
                        Daughter: Twoowt Pirania 95cm; RVL8 2015 Blunt XL; RVL8 2021 SII; Spruce Crossbows
                        Past: RVL8 2010 Revolt Trees, RVL8 2014 Condor, RVL8 2009 ALPdors, Spruce 120 Yellow/Red

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by newbie2011 View Post
                          Speaking about March, there's an Euroshredfest planned for March in Andorra, not sure if you have noticed https://forums.skiboardsonline.com/f...shredfest-2024
                          Thanks and yes I have seen it. Unfortunately I'll be in Saalbach Hinterglemm in Austria during this time. But maybe next year. Guess it would be fun to ride with other Skiboarders

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by FakeCondor View Post

                            Thanks and yes I have seen it. Unfortunately I'll be in Saalbach Hinterglemm in Austria during this time. But maybe next year. Guess it would be fun to ride with other Skiboarders
                            No worries, hope it will become a regular event for us Europeans, best case scenario we'll meet in different regions every year.

                            By the way, I was wondering lately, how is fresh snow holding up in Austria or Switzerland ? In French Alps, with the climate change and snow that starts to lack, I go to resorts where I ski mostly above 2000m, and it seems to me that there are big temperature variations from day to night, so even if today it snows a lot and you have fresh powder, by tomorrow it has a thin icy, frozen layer on top and the freshness is gone. Do you experience the same problem there ?
                            Myself: RVL8 2011 KTP, Spruce 125 LE, RVL8 "Drooling Clouds" RCs, Spruce 2016 Osprey
                            Daughter: Twoowt Pirania 95cm; RVL8 2015 Blunt XL; RVL8 2021 SII; Spruce Crossbows
                            Past: RVL8 2010 Revolt Trees, RVL8 2014 Condor, RVL8 2009 ALPdors, Spruce 120 Yellow/Red

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                            • #15
                              Can‘t tell. I’m not very often in the alps.

                              Last year in South Tyrol (Ahrntal Klausberg) I had very good conditions. But I guess I had a lot of luck as it was snowing heavily.

                              I live near Frankfurt in a rather flat area. Highest Mountains are below 900m. You have to be very lucky to get good conditions or even snow.

                              I think climate change is real and you can see and feel it in our sport.


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