I revert accidentaly....
Reverts suck... It's all about them shuffles ;-)
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Anyways, this is almost 7 months late. I have to agree, i tend to revert a lot. Sometimes it just hard to stop that rotation, especially on front 630s and 9's.
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I strongly agree with the natural flow aspect. If you want to hit a forward spin on the second jump then make sure your landing on the first jump comes out forward. Do a 3 or 7, or even a fakie 1 or 5 to let it be smooth. Not only does it look smoother and more natural it helps to keep the flow of your riding. Reverts cause loss of speed and if you plan on hitting a larger jump line and want spins/inverts/drags/etc... involving half rotations on a large jump you wont be wanting to revert and wind up knuckling. I also agree with Tim's view on lack of ability in hitting jumps fakie. If you constantly revert it makes it seem to the view, be it true or not, that you cannot either hit a jump fakie or carry from one jump to the next in a fluid motion involving fakie riding and fakie jump hitting. The same hold true for rails, wall rides, and anything else you are working in the freestyle realm. Videos should be the cream of the crop with your riding. It's a waste to release something that is not at least near perfect in all aspects. With that understanding a view of a revert takes away from that vibe.
And again, I admit my guilt on this and recognize it is something I need to work on fixing.
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I see a lot of reverts immediately after a landing. Why land the other direction at all?
I think quick reverts take away from the trick you just landed, discourage people from learning to ride both backwards and forwards well, and discourage people to think in terms of lines.
If you need to revert, I get the impression you've either slightly missed your landing or not planned your line well enough.
When one of our pros hit three jumps in a row (let's say forward/backward/backward) without a revert, lands and rides off without a revert, it looks natural and smooth. I think our sport can improve its style in this area.
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Originally posted by tyberesk View Postfakie is not a skiing term.
Unnatural is
Switch is
Riding regular.......revert to riding switch.....to SW270 on (either natural or unnatural)
i miss you davie wavey bloomy <3
And I'm with Lynam on this one. Reverts really don't bother me much. Obviously in a slopestyle run it would be a point deduction, but they don't bother me in edits.
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Originally posted by tyberesk View Postfakie is not a skiing term.
Originally posted by tyberesk View Posti miss you davie wavey bloomy <3
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Originally posted by fourdown View PostSo, by switch you mean unnatural, right? I mean, since a lot of these threads are talking about opinions on progressing the sport in style and in trick vocabulary, shouldn't we be working on the actual vocabulary as well? I mean, with skiboarding's original riders being rooted in blading and most of the original terms (names of grabs and such) rooted in blading, then shouldn't we be applying terms like switch to their actual meanings? :-) I am just as guilty as the rest of us for finding the wrong terms with definitions, but lets make skiboarding unique again, especially when we talk about it.
So, what you really meant is riding straight, reverting and riding fakie, then doing a fakie 270 on? Or, did you mean riding straight, reverting to an unnatural stance, and then doing an unnatural 270 on?
Unnatural is
Switch is
Riding regular.......revert to riding switch.....to SW270 on (either natural or unnatural)
i miss you davie wavey bloomy <3
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Originally posted by Talon View PostIm a skiboarder so I agree with the terms.. riding regular - jumping to switch - switch 270 on.. just like skiing. That's the way I have always referred to it, riding/landing switch.
Originally posted by jackschmid View Postthats like telling a person with an accent to stop using it
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Originally posted by fourdown View PostSo, what you really meant is riding straight, reverting and riding fakie, then doing a fakie 270 on? Or, did you mean riding straight, reverting to an unnatural stance, and then doing an unnatural 270 on?
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Originally posted by fourdown View PostSo, by switch you mean unnatural, right? I mean, since a lot of these threads are talking about opinions on progressing the sport in style and in trick vocabulary, shouldn't we be working on the actual vocabulary as well? I mean, with skiboarding's original riders being rooted in blading and most of the original terms (names of grabs and such) rooted in blading, then shouldn't we be applying terms like switch to their actual meanings? :-) I am just as guilty as the rest of us for finding the wrong terms with definitions, but lets make skiboarding unique again, especially when we talk about it.
So, what you really meant is riding straight, reverting and riding fakie, then doing a fakie 270 on? Or, did you mean riding straight, reverting to an unnatural stance, and then doing an unnatural 270 on?
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Originally posted by jackschmid View Postin single hit shots theyre completely pointless, but in continuous follow cam shots sometimes theyre necessary but take away from the flow and style of the video
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Originally posted by tyberesk View PostI like seeing riding straight.....revert to switch....then switch 270 on.
So, what you really meant is riding straight, reverting and riding fakie, then doing a fakie 270 on? Or, did you mean riding straight, reverting to an unnatural stance, and then doing an unnatural 270 on?
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I'm pretty torn on this. I personally don't like them at all on a single hit, which is something I know that I need to work on. I spent a lot of last season trying to get away from the instinct that has been instilled in me from skating, where it is part of the norm. It looks much better to ride away from the single hit, regardless of the feature, fakie (or switch, for you SKIboarders haha). Also, on a jumpline it does look great to be able to link tricks together by landing something like a flat spin and follow it with a fakie/switch cork of some sort, etc… But, I will also agree somewhat with what Lynam says. It shouldn't be a prime concern, not right away anyway, if you can't follow up on a rail, jump, etc… with a fakie/switch trick. But, to remedy that I think riders should work on more fakie/switch tricks because it is something we definitely need to see more of. Maybe that could be a topic for the next poll, Tim?
So, in short it definitely looks better to ride out of a trick in the same direction it was landed and not revert. I personally am working on making the instinctual in my own riding to better the quality of product I put out and just my riding in general. I think for the higher end videos we shouldn't be seeing much of it at all unless it is part of the line or trick being done, i.e. skiers doing shifty buttered landings that come off like a revert or like what Jason put up in the video, a desired revert going into the trick (Joey does this a lot, too, if you haven't noticed, and it looks really dope).
Just for the record, if you look at the top of the drop in for that long box in Tim's video you can see Brandon Enouf and I That was the second weekend that Keystone was open last year on the Saturday.
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