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  • Spruce Slingshots Review

    My full review later. Here is my short version, best all around skiboard I've ridden!! . Edgy on firm when you want, slarvy when you want to slide, wonderful ,floaty and fast in deep unbroken pow, variable and crust, riding off the tails, tips nice and floaty in variable stuff, excellent carving on groomed snow , great in moguls, all ridden from center mounted binding in an upright centered to slightly forward riding position. Instant classic!


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    Boards :
    Spliffs
    DLPs
    Condors
    Slingshots
    Sherpa

    Boot:
    K2 BFC 100

    Bindings:
    Zero Pro Non release Binding
    Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
    Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
    Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

  • #2
    Originally posted by jjue View Post
    Best all around skiboard I've ridden!!
    If I only had a dollar for every time you have said this. Ha!


    Skiboards:
    2013 Spruce Sherpas w/Tyrolia Peak 11s
    2015 RVL8 Blunt XLs w/Tyrolia Attack 13s
    2018 Spruce Crossbows w/Tyrolia Peak 11s
    2017 RVL8 Sticky Icky Ickys w/Tyrolia SX 10s


    Boots:
    Salomon X-Pro 80

    Past boards: Salomon Snowblades, Line MNPs 89 & 98 cm, Five-Os, Bullets, Jedis, Spruce 120s, LE 125s, Ospreys
    Summit 110s, Nomads, Jades, RVL8 ALPs, BWPs, KTPs, Tanshos, Rockets, DLPs, Blunts, Condors, RCs, Revolts, Spliffs

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    • #3
      Jack,

      Are they really better than the Crossbows?

      And did you rear-mount them?

      Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk

      Current: '20 Spruce Slingshot 119s, '20 Spruce Crossbow 115s, '18 Spruce Osprey 103s (touring)
      Also: '11 Allz Elaila 94s, '12 Rockered Condor 110s, '15 Spruce Osprey 132s (touring), '18 Spruce Crossbow 115s
      Previous: Gaspo Hot Wax 84s, Mantrax 98s, Summit Nomad 99s, Spruce Yellow 120s, Eman Uprise 104s

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sempai View Post
        If I only had a dollar for every time you have said this. Ha!
        Ha Ha . yes I have been accused of saying this about every skiboard I ride . This time what I mean is that while the Slingshots may not be the best skiboard for every condition for me , they are the best all around compromise. I am going to do this review a little differently in that I will compare the Slingshots to my current three favorite skiboards , the Sherpas , the Crossbows , and the Spliffs and try to explain how they differ from the other three boards and where the Slingshots fit in my skiboard line up .
        Boards :
        Spliffs
        DLPs
        Condors
        Slingshots
        Sherpa

        Boot:
        K2 BFC 100

        Bindings:
        Zero Pro Non release Binding
        Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
        Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
        Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ysb33r View Post
          Jack,

          Are they really better than the Crossbows?

          And did you rear-mount them?

          Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk
          Great question , and I will start with a comparison of the Slingshots and the Crossbows. The Slingshots and the Crossbows are about the same surface area but are designed differently with the Slingshots having a wider tip and a narrower tail then then Crossbows . The Crossbows have a rockered tip and tail and are perfectly symmetric. The Slingshots are rockered at the tip and are not rockered in the rear. My own personal experience with the Crossbows is that they carve for me wonderfully in the center position but in variable conditions, crust and in deep pow I need to ride them rear mounted for them to work for me , to prevent tip dive and to avoid having to lean back on my heels . I have defaultted to riding the Crossbows in the rear position all the time now because I do not like to keep changing binding positions but I have to lean forward in firm snow a signficant amount to engage the tips and have them carve properly when rear set and even then the carve is not as edgy or great as in the center position for me. With the Slingshots I have them mounted center and kept them center mounted all day in all conditions . Interestingly the center mount position on the Slingshots is rear set to the exact center of the board and sits on the center of the turning radius of the board and is actually set back on the board compared to how a center mounted binding is on the Crossbows . This and the assymetric shape of the board causes the tail of the board to sink enough in crust , variable snow and deep pow , that I do not need to rear set the board in these conditions . In these types of conditions the board works very well , feels floatier and faster then the Crossbows primarily I think because it is not sinking the tail quite as much as a rear mounted Crossbows and causing drag in three D snow. Basically I control the board in soft now from a centered or slightly leaning forward position without any need to rock back on my heels.
          In firm snow on a center mounted Slingshot the design has a number of different characteristics compared to the Crossbows. If you stay centered on the board the board feels more slarvy, almost like a non cambered rockered board . It is very easy to slide the tails but the edge still engages with a very positive edge hold and the board does not slide out . It kind of is super easy to turn but then hooks into the edge . If you lean very slightly forward then the tip engages more and it feels exactly like carving a center mounted Crossbow. The carve feels very nice and precise and the edge is very well engaged. By the way I have just the stock Slingshots and not the special race tuned version . I didn't do anything to them after receiving them except for putting some hot wax on them
          The wider tip of the Slingshots also helps in broken up and variable snow compared to the Crossbows and especially comparing center mount Crossbow to center mount Slingshots. The nice ability to slide /slarve or engage into a carve at will with a slight change in body position center to forward is really cool in moguls and makes the board seem easier to me in moguls then the Crossbows. All in all the board is very comfortable and easy going in all conditions.

          I agree with Wookie that if one is mostly in firm icy snow then the Crossbows are great with the option to set back the boards for deep snow if you get that every once in a while
          For me the Slingshots have replaced the Crossbows as the best compromise board if I have powder , variable conditions, crust , and icy firm snow and moguls all in one day especially as riding it center works for me in all conditions .
          Boards :
          Spliffs
          DLPs
          Condors
          Slingshots
          Sherpa

          Boot:
          K2 BFC 100

          Bindings:
          Zero Pro Non release Binding
          Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
          Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
          Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

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          • #6
            Sherpa s vs Slingshots: I ride Sherpas rear mounted.That way they have more float, are faster, and more stable in variable conditions but take significantly more work to turn and are less fun in moguls. I reach for them in deep pow conditions but on most days they are a bit of overkill for me. Certainly more work to carve.

            Sent from my moto g(6) play using Tapatalk

            Boards :
            Spliffs
            DLPs
            Condors
            Slingshots
            Sherpa

            Boot:
            K2 BFC 100

            Bindings:
            Zero Pro Non release Binding
            Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
            Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
            Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

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            • #7
              Spliffs vs Slingshots: I ride Spliffs 4cm set back with non release Zero bindings. I love the fat short shape ,light weight of the set up with non releasers especially in soft snow , they carve ok but nothing like Crossbows or Slingshots
              In general if it is a light pow day ,you might see me on Spliffs, deep pow on Sherpas, all around conditions like today, with pow variable, firm ,the whole range you will probably find me on Slingshots!

              Sent from my moto g(6) play using Tapatalk

              Boards :
              Spliffs
              DLPs
              Condors
              Slingshots
              Sherpa

              Boot:
              K2 BFC 100

              Bindings:
              Zero Pro Non release Binding
              Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
              Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
              Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

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              • #8
                So how will the Crossbows fit into your quiver now Jack?
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                Osprey, Sherpa, Custom Coda 120WT, Custom DS110, Condor (Green), Spliff

                Custom Twist Out duck foot bindings, Bombers (custom duck foot base plate and 3 pads), releasable S810ti on custom duck foot riser

                Nordica N3 NXT ski boots (best so far)


                Wife: 104 SII & 100 Blunt XL with S810ti bindings on custom "adjustable duck foot" risers

                Loaners: 125LE, 105 EMP, 101 KTP, 100 Blunt XL, 98 Slapdash, 88 Blunts

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by slow View Post
                  So how will the Crossbows fit into your quiver now Jack?
                  I think the Slingshots will replace the Crossbows in my quiver

                  Sent from my moto g(6) play using Tapatalk

                  Boards :
                  Spliffs
                  DLPs
                  Condors
                  Slingshots
                  Sherpa

                  Boot:
                  K2 BFC 100

                  Bindings:
                  Zero Pro Non release Binding
                  Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
                  Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
                  Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jjue View Post
                    Great question , and I will start with a comparison of the Slingshots and the Crossbows....
                    Excellent review, thank you for writing such a detailed comparison !!! I was just reading the good reviews of the Crossbows, but these sound even more exciting
                    RVL8 Blunt XL
                    Spruce Raptors 125LE
                    Revel8 2010 Revolt Trees 105cm
                    Spruce Yellow/Red 120s

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                    • #11
                      I always enjoy reading your reviews Jack. As usual very informative!
                      rickylink

                      ~ KTP ~ Revolts (mucho) ~ ALP/DLP ~ BCP ~ RC's ~ Blunt~ Blunt XL~ Spliff ~ Sticky ii~ Spruce LE /Osprey~ Crossbow ~ Bomber E2 Bindings / RVL8 Receptors
                      ~ Full Tilt Boots

                      ~ Your 1 ply guy



                      Big or Small I Ride them All !

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                      • #12
                        I have some more thoughts on powder performance of the Slingshots and how they compare to other boards. The rear position on the Slingshots might work for some people better then the center position , . Let me explain. When you set back the Crossbows and the Sherpas on the rear inserts or set back the Spliffs 3-4cm back , they work very well in deep pow by leaning FORWARD in deep pow right up against the tounges of your boot and are very error tolerant in variable terrain preventing you from going over the handlebars forward in deep inconsistent snow when the snow varies allot in consistency from turn to turn . If any fall occurs it goes back on your rear rather then a face plant which is much easier to deal with in difficult conditions. I had just ridden the rear mounted Sherpas in pow a few days before getting on the Slingshots and found I had to adjust my style ( I did take a couple of face plants before adjusting , ha ha ) . I have to ride the pow in a more centered position more like how I ride a center mount Blunt Xl in deep pow and be a bit more careful of balance then a rear mounted Sherpa . Soon as I realized that , everything clicked and I was able to ride all conditions very nicely on the Slingshots and in control which seemed faster then a Blunt Xl in pow but not as fast as the Sherpas . I think rear setting the Slingshots would make them more error tolerant in pow but l I think there will be a big trade off in firm snow performance going back. I was so happy with the way the Slingshots performed in the center position on skier packed or groomed snow and moguls that once I found out how to adjust to riding them in deep pow and variable I didnt want to experiment going to the rear position . .
                        Boards :
                        Spliffs
                        DLPs
                        Condors
                        Slingshots
                        Sherpa

                        Boot:
                        K2 BFC 100

                        Bindings:
                        Zero Pro Non release Binding
                        Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
                        Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
                        Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

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                        • #13
                          Riding the Slingshots has gotten me thinking about a whole lof things because it is such an unusual board. In this post I wanted to explore some of my feelings about wide bodied and narrow bodied skiboards. I really , really , like the feel of the super wide bodied skiboards in soft snow , especially when a super wide tip is combined with a super wide waist in a short format . Boards like the Condors the Blunt Xl and the Spliffs fit the bill . The issue with me is that the wide boards don't carve as nicely as the narrower boards. Yes they can get up on edge and carve fast and furious on firm snow especially when ridden low to the ground , feet slightly apart , skiboard style ( think Courtney or Dave Lynam or Kirk Thompson ). but the boards do not lend themselves to that beautiful elegant stand up tall boards together type style so epitomized by riders like Rickylink and Valmorel that I aspire to . For that you need need a narrower board like the Dlp/Alps , Crossbows, or Stickies and often the carve is best if the board is ridden right on the center mount position. I have always had a preference for off piste riding and groomers are kind of just a way to get to the goods and real nice carving performance is not as important for me so I have gravitated towards boards that do well in the off piste over their groomed snow performance, but what if I could have my cake and eat it to ? . The Slingshots are the closest to that ideal I have come . I do prefer the feel of the wide bodied big short fat regular skiboards over the Slingshots in pow and soft snow but not by a long shot and the center mount carve,/slarve combination of the Slingshots on firm snow is so much fun that I actually look for groomers equally with the off piste stuff , which is really a revelation for me ,especially as I get to be an old man and get tired out doing the stuff that Courtney likes to spend her whole day doing , !
                          Boards :
                          Spliffs
                          DLPs
                          Condors
                          Slingshots
                          Sherpa

                          Boot:
                          K2 BFC 100

                          Bindings:
                          Zero Pro Non release Binding
                          Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
                          Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
                          Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

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                          • #14
                            Had my second day on the Slingshots Monday. Best early season in memory at Kirkwood. 11 feet of snow so far,100 per cent of terrain open.

                            Sent from my moto g(6) play using Tapatalk

                            Boards :
                            Spliffs
                            DLPs
                            Condors
                            Slingshots
                            Sherpa

                            Boot:
                            K2 BFC 100

                            Bindings:
                            Zero Pro Non release Binding
                            Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
                            Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
                            Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

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                            • #15
                              All kinds of conditions , double black diamond runs all open , steep chutes , big bowls , natural wind blown snow , pockets of undisturbed powder , broken powder , steep icy moguls where skiers have ridden the snow off and wind has blown and made them icy , nice groomers .. the Slingshots are really the swiss army knife of skiboards for me , they just do everything I want and are easily controlled with no bad habits ,
                              I love that I don't need to set them back and can ride them center in everything ,
                              A fantastic new board .
                              Boards :
                              Spliffs
                              DLPs
                              Condors
                              Slingshots
                              Sherpa

                              Boot:
                              K2 BFC 100

                              Bindings:
                              Zero Pro Non release Binding
                              Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
                              Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
                              Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

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