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Originally posted by warreo View PostI broke down and got a pair of Crossbows and unpacked them from Santa Jeff last night. One thing I noticed is that the camber between my right and left boards differ fairly significantly. The left is at 3.5mm and the right is 7mm as measured from the same surface. I understand that there will be some variation due to small batch manufacturing, but it was immediately noticeable to my naked eye when I set them side by side. My question is, will this be an issue at all, or does it not really matter? Was going to test them out this weekend but will refrain if it's something that I should get addressed by Jeff.
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I broke down and got a pair of Crossbows and unpacked them from Santa Jeff last night. One thing I noticed is that the camber between my right and left boards differ fairly significantly. The left is at 3.5mm and the right is 7mm as measured from the same surface. I understand that there will be some variation due to small batch manufacturing, but it was immediately noticeable to my naked eye when I set them side by side. My question is, will this be an issue at all, or does it not really matter? Was going to test them out this weekend but will refrain if it's something that I should get addressed by Jeff.
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Glad you are enjoying the Crossbows. Yes they are great!. I rode them set back all the time and have had no breakage issues but my friend Wjeong , did crack a pair going over moguls with the rear hitting up the rear part of the riser. You can put a rubber bumper on the rear of the riser to make that less likely . You can talk to Jeff Singer at Spruce about how to do that .
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I just took out my new Crossbows yesterday. They are pretty awesome. I feel like they are the best parts of Sticky Ickkies and the Spruce Ospreys. The Ospreys were my favorite, but I think the Crossbows beat them out. The Ospreys are awesome in powder, the Sticky Ickies excel in crap conditions, and the Crossbows are some where in the middle.
when I bought them Jeff warned me about setting them back may cause them to break. Anyone have this issue?
JW
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Groomers: Center.
Deep snow: Set back
My new opionion after experiments today
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Originally posted by ysb33r View PostI too have become much more of a Spruce person than a Revel8. no that I have anything against Greco's boards, it is just that the longer boards seem to suit me better,
I no longer care about spinning around on boards, riding fakie or trying to break the sound barrier. I just want to have fun going downhill, laying carves on groomers, floating on pow in freeride zones and enjoying the eerie silence being between the trees.
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Originally posted by CANtoo View PostOk, guys, last month I stayed up way too late on a work night reading this entire thread on the Crossbows out of curiosity. By the end, I was on the Spruce Mountain site ordering a pair, so thanks a LOT!.
Day 1: center-mounted WITH POLES on all groomers due to no new snow. First run I felt "meh" bc they were not "fun" like the XL's (you guys know I love the ALP/DLP, but I am a recent convert to the XL's as well); however, as the legs loosened up, I found that the faster and steeper, the better these got. The little "pop" I got on the turns thanks to the camber was a lot of fun, because with that edge I could really dig in and push them without fear of sliding out. When the top of the mountain got windblown and scraped off (grrrr snowboarders!!), these held no problem.
Day 2: Chad tried them center. He is the slarve king, maneuvering those XL's and rockered Condors like he's barely touching the snow. Needless to say, he will NOT be borrowing these from me. Not a fan. I rode the 125 LE's and had a blast.
Day 3: I rode Crossbows set back in 11 inches of new snow. With almost no visibility, we stuck to trees and a lower bowl to have a reference point and avoid vertigo. The Crossbows are all that and a bag of chips in pow. They turn quickly and never get going too fast in trees (which sometimes happens to me on the Ospreys). Again, when the top of the mountain started getting to be blown off crust, the edge was still solid. On the groomer I may even prefer them set back because you can lean forward pretty aggressively and pop into powder any time you want without feeling like you'll pitch forward (PERFECT amount of rocker!)
Day 4: Rode these again.
In the end, I don't think we will ever be able to thank Jeff and Greco enough for the years of fun thanks to them engineering those risers and bindings and coming up with fabulous boards (makes it waaaay too easy to buy another pair I don't need when I can just pop my current bindings on them!) The Crossbows are a brilliant design giving stability and all-condition riding in a light, fun, comfortable (thanks to camber) package. Center mounted on groomers they felt rock-solid stable like the Sherpas but tons lighter and a little easier to turn. Even though carrying poles is a pain in the ass, these are fun riding "ski-style," and poles come in handy when it gets deep. I think they even replace my classic soft ALPs and those gorgeous eyeball DLPs. I'll probably sell those 110s, so RickyLink, you get first dibs on the softies!
Rick ><)))°>
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Ospreys still rule
Originally posted by CANtoo View PostI'll try, but he said it felt like too much ski. I think like Paul, he likes the liveliness of the short boards. He is the RVL8 devotee and I am more Spruce. After using XLs only last season, he pulled out the RCs instead of Ospreys for the powder and absolutely loved them even on groomers!
I started on the Ospreys with mounted bindings, thinking I'd switch to crossbows later--not a chance. It was a day for the beasts. Chad decided to stick with the RCs again, and 1st run down caught tips in a deep pillow (hard to do on RCs, especially for Chad!) When I heard him complaining, "There's too much!" as he got up, I knew then that he'll be holding onto those Ospreys forever, no matter how much of a short board devotee he is. Those rare multi-storm pileups demand setback Ospreys!
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Originally posted by Toro View PostI certainly hope there’s a new batch next year. I forced myself to hold out and now that they’re gone I’m kicking myself
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Originally posted by ysb33r View PostI am so impressed with the Crossbows that I reckon I'll order a 3rd pair should Jeff decide to produce a new batch.
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I am so impressed with the Crossbows that I reckon I'll order a 3rd pair should Jeff decide to produce a new batch.
I have a set of rental bindings that are mounted on a piar of Emans atm, which I can easily repurpose so that orhers also can enjoy an introduction.
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