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Boards:
2016 Spruce tuned Head Jr. Caddys - 131cm
2013 Spruce "CTS" 120s
2010 Spruce "Yellow/Red" 120s
2018 Spruce "CTS" Crossbows - 115cm
2016 RVL8 Spliffs - 109cm
2008 RVL8 Revolt "City" - 105cm
2017 RVL8 Sticky Icky Icky - 104cm
2011 Defiance Blades - 101cm
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Originally posted by chrisd4421 View PostOne question for those who preordered. Release or non release?Boards/Bindings:
2013 Spruce Sherpas w/Tyrolia Peak 11s
2023 Spruce Stingers w/Tyrolia Peak 11s
2015 RVL8 Blunt XLs w/Tyrolia Attack 13s
2020 RVL8 Sticky Icky Ickys w/Tyrolia SX 10s
Boots:
Salomon X-Pro 80
Past boards: Salomon Snowblades, Line MNPs 89 & 98 cm, Five-Os, Bullets, Jedis, Spruce 120s, LE 125s, Ospreys, Crossbows
Summit 110s, Nomads, Jades, RVL8 ALPs, BWPs, KTPs, Tanshos, Rockets, DLPs, Blunts, Condors, RCs, Revolts, Spliffs
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[quote name="chrisd4421" post=151214]One question for those who preordered. Release or non release?[/QUOTE]Non-release for me.
Non Release for me...rickylink
~ KTP ~ Revolts (mucho) ~ ALP/DLP ~ BCP ~ RC's ~ Blunt~ Blunt XL~ Spliff ~ Sticky ii~ Spruce LE /Osprey~ Crossbow ~ Bomber E2 Bindings / RVL8 Receptors
~ Full Tilt Boots
~ Your 1 ply guy
Big or Small I Ride them All !
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Non-release for me too.sigpic
Osprey, Sherpa, Custom Coda 120WT, Custom DS110, Condor (Green), Spliff
Custom Twist Out duck foot bindings, Bombers (custom duck foot base plate and 3 pads), releasable S810ti on custom duck foot riser
Nordica N3 NXT ski boots (best so far)
Wife: 104 SII & 100 Blunt XL with S810ti bindings on custom "adjustable duck foot" risers
Loaners: 125LE, 105 EMP, 101 KTP, 100 Blunt XL, 98 Slapdash, 88 Blunts
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Originally posted by rickylink View Post.... The stability is brilliant, a lot like a 120 actually,
You had me at "a lot like the 120". I think I stopped reading there.
Note to Greco The "a lot like the 120" text needs to be a hyperlink to the preorder page just for me, Sempai, and Bill. And rickylink!!
Valmorel, your comments about the board being suited for "upright" boots caught my attention. I'm sure you can guess why ;-) Is there some aspect of the ride quality that lends itself to this? Jack noted at shredfest last year that the upright riding style must be popular in Missouri.
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Originally posted by Bill View PostWookie didn't need his ESP to predict that my preorder's already in. Tuned-in skiboarders know the 120 remains the gold standard. We'll see soon enough how this bad boy stacks up.
Valmorel, your comments about the board being suited for "upright" boots caught my attention. I'm sure you can guess why ;-) Is there some aspect of the ride quality that lends itself to this? Jack noted at shredfest last year that the upright riding style must be popular in Missouri.Crossbow (go to dream board)
Most everything else over time.
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Originally posted by Bill View Post..... Tuned-in skiboarders know the 120 remains the gold standard......
Originally posted by valmorel View PostThe tail support is really good so if you get back on the tails it's OK, but more importantly, because the board has a neutral feel, pressuring the tails a little doesn't immediately cause the board to get off line. It's not the kind of board you would need to blunt the tails just to get it to behave, it's great straight out of the box, so a comfortable upright stance works really well.Boards:
2016 Spruce tuned Head Jr. Caddys - 131cm
2013 Spruce "CTS" 120s
2010 Spruce "Yellow/Red" 120s
2018 Spruce "CTS" Crossbows - 115cm
2016 RVL8 Spliffs - 109cm
2008 RVL8 Revolt "City" - 105cm
2017 RVL8 Sticky Icky Icky - 104cm
2011 Defiance Blades - 101cm
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Originally posted by ashman View PostI think they are "quite" similar RVL8 Rockered Condor.. and I have to ask if they have the same Maneuverability and the same predisposition to Moguls..Boards :
Blunt Xl, DLP, Spliff, Condor, Rockered Condor , Slingshot, Sherpa, Icelantic Shaman
Boots
K2 BFC 100 Grip walk sole , Dynafit CR Radical AT boot, Ride Insano Snowboard boots
Bindings:
Zero Pro Non release Binding
Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
Spruce Riser with Attack 14 GW /AT binding
Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)
Rocker and Sbol Soft Boot Bindings.
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Originally posted by jjue View PostPerhaps Valmorel and Gromit will comment on the differences as I know they have ridden both boards. ... The main difference in design is that the new board is cambered with less pronounced rocker , the Rockered Condor is zero camber with more pronounced Rocker. The width and length and side cut are as you say similiar but I do think that the different camber, rocker design will cause the boards to have significant differences in performance in different conditions and also different from the regular Condor which is cambered but not rockered. Basically we now have three super wide 110 boards .. one with big rocker and zero camber, one with less pronounced rocker and + camber, and one with no Rocker and + camber .Spruce Crossbow 115 "Ski Track" skiboards - My Go To skiboards
Tyrolia Attack2 13 GW release bindings on Spruce Risers
Nordica HF110 ski boots
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I've pre-ordered some Spliffs too - Release bindings
I couldn't resist the Spliffs or that brilliant graphic on the topsheets, so I've pre-ordered a pair too.
I'll be using release bindings. Spruce Risers with Tyrolia Attack 13 bindings. The equal of any non-release binding, in ability.Spruce Crossbow 115 "Ski Track" skiboards - My Go To skiboards
Tyrolia Attack2 13 GW release bindings on Spruce Risers
Nordica HF110 ski boots
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Originally posted by Gromit View PostI'll be using release bindings. Spruce Risers with Tyrolia Attack 13 bindings. The equal of any non-release binding, in ability.
Just asking, I've looked at the Attack 13s a few times but not pulled the trigger because of the riser.Just these, nothing else !
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Spruce 2015 Pro Prime Plus Risers & Release Bindings
Originally posted by Bad Wolf View PostBy "the equal of any non release binding in ability" are you just referring to the connection or the entire set up? I feel that my bindings on risers produce and very different feel and ride characteristics over my non release bindings due to the differences in height and weight distribution.
Just asking, I've looked at the Attack 13s a few times but not pulled the trigger because of the riser.
I noticed no difference when I switched from RVL8 Receptors to Attack 13s and Risers. Yes, the stack height (topsheet of skiboard to sole of ski boot) at 40mm is about 15mm more. IMHO that makes little difference, in practice. Without the usual slop, inherent in a bog-standard, release binding's toe pieces but not in the toe pieces of the Attack 13's, increasing the stack height by such a small amount has negligible effect.
May I humbly suggest that you read valmorel's thread on the Attack 13 bindings and Spruce Risers for further information and opinion?Spruce Crossbow 115 "Ski Track" skiboards - My Go To skiboards
Tyrolia Attack2 13 GW release bindings on Spruce Risers
Nordica HF110 ski boots
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Originally posted by Gromit View PostMay I humbly suggest that you read valmorel's thread on the Attack 13 bindings and Spruce Risers for further information and opinion?
Perhaps the variance for me is here;
Originally posted by Gromit View PostYes, the stack height (topsheet of skiboard to sole of ski boot) at 40mm is about 15mm more. IMHO that makes little difference, in practice. Without the usual slop, inherent in a bog-standard, release binding's toe pieces but not in the toe pieces of the Attack 13's, increasing the stack height by such a small amount has negligible effect.
I still think it's worth considering as I'll be on Spruce Bindings anyway this year. Anything that brings the feel closer to a non release binding would definitely be a plus. Of course I'm still holding out hope for a direct fix solution.Just these, nothing else !
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