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  • Stinger boards ?

    Hey guys,

    Just noticed some days ago there's a new Spruce model this winter, called "Stinger", and was wondering if anyone has any insights into how these boards would compare to the existing Sherpas. By the description they sound to be an update or replacement of the Sherpas, but I see some differences in tip, tail height and rocker and wonder what would they change or improve in these boards
    Myself: RVL8 '11 KTP, Spruce 125 LE, RVL8 '23 RCs, RVL8 '23 Playmakers
    Daughter: RVL8 '14 Slapdash, RVL8 '15 Blunt XL, RVL8 '21 SII, Spruce '18 Crossbows; Twoowt Pirania 95cm
    Past: RVL8 '10 Revolt Trees, Spruce 120 Yellow/Red, RVL8 '09 ALPdors, RVL8 '14 Condor, Spruce '16 Osprey

  • #2
    This is what Jeff Singer (designer of the Sherpa and the Stinger) said to answer the same question on the Skiboard Connection page on facebook.
    "Riders that are at or above 300 pounds can usually ride Sherpas happily. Riders who are 150 to 160 pounds often think when they try Sherpas that they are being punished for something. Matt Hein is a pretty rare exception. Funny how talent matters.
    Very skilled lighter riders think they want Sherpas until I warn them that they may not be happy on them. Then they think I'm dissing their ability. So, now they can get on Stingers and hopefully be happy. I may like them better than Sherpas before the late afternoon chopped up conditions develop. More fun.
    Boards that have both tip and tail rocker can be turned easily without carving at all. A young beginner was struggling to turn his father's Revolts and switched to Crossbows. Much easier turning."
    Boards :
    Blunt Xl, DLP, Spliff, Condor, Rockered Condor , Slingshot, Sherpa, Icelantic Shaman
    Boots
    K2 BFC 100 Grip walk sole , Dynafit CR Radical AT boot, Ride Insano Snowboard boots
    Bindings:
    Zero Pro Non release Binding
    Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
    Spruce Riser with Attack 14 GW /AT binding
    Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)
    Rocker and Sbol Soft Boot Bindings.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jjue View Post
      This is what Jeff Singer (designer of the Sherpa and the Stinger) said to answer the same question on the Skiboard Connection page on facebook.
      "Riders that are at or above 300 pounds can usually ride Sherpas happily. Riders who are 150 to 160 pounds often think when they try Sherpas that they are being punished for something. Matt Hein is a pretty rare exception. Funny how talent matters.
      Very skilled lighter riders think they want Sherpas until I warn them that they may not be happy on them. Then they think I'm dissing their ability. So, now they can get on Stingers and hopefully be happy"
      That's quite interesting, I was sure there's more than meets the eye, but could not figure this from the specs themselves, thanks a lot Jack !
      Myself: RVL8 '11 KTP, Spruce 125 LE, RVL8 '23 RCs, RVL8 '23 Playmakers
      Daughter: RVL8 '14 Slapdash, RVL8 '15 Blunt XL, RVL8 '21 SII, Spruce '18 Crossbows; Twoowt Pirania 95cm
      Past: RVL8 '10 Revolt Trees, Spruce 120 Yellow/Red, RVL8 '09 ALPdors, RVL8 '14 Condor, Spruce '16 Osprey

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      • #4
        Jack, I wonder how much better they would do for touring as compared to the Ospreys. The longer running length should give more bite on traverses, but it still depends on the sidecut as well
        Current: '20 Spruce Slingshot 119s, '20 Spruce Crossbow 115s, '18 Spruce Osprey 132s (touring), '21 Rvl8 SII 104s, '21 Summit Invertigos 118s
        Also: '11 Allz Elaila 94s, '12 Rvl8 Rockered Condor 110s, '15 Spruce Osprey 132s , '18 Spruce Crossbow 115s
        Previous: Gaspo Hot Wax 84s, Mantrax 98s, Summit Nomad 99s, Spruce Yellow 120s, Eman Uprise 104s

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ysb33r View Post
          Jack, I wonder how much better they would do for touring as compared to the Ospreys. The longer running length should give more bite on traverses, but it still depends on the sidecut as well
          Hi ysb33r, I have found that bite on traverse for touring depends on the torsional rigidity of the board and the narrowness of the board. More torsional rigid boards and narrower boards bite better on touring .
          Also boards with a straighter side cut and that are longer are better.Generally boards that have a longer running length do have a longer edge to put down and are a bit better on traverse all things being equal
          The Stinger has the same side cut as the Osprey , about the same flex , only difference is camber vs no camber and minimal front rocker. I do think it will have some better edge hold on traverse but it would not be a big thing .
          Generally with all my wide bodied skiboards I have trouble traversing on firm snow compared to those on long skis. I basically compensate by attaching crampons way earlier then skiers do rather than struggle edging my board on traverse. A real game changer has been the Skeats Claws strap on crampons . This is a new design which offers both front points and side points that are easily strapped on and are really useful in navigating traverses in firm snow no matter the board. The proper size for Stingers or Ospreys would be 110mm wide .
          https://www.skincleats.com/new-produ...ats-claws-pair

          Jack
          Boards :
          Blunt Xl, DLP, Spliff, Condor, Rockered Condor , Slingshot, Sherpa, Icelantic Shaman
          Boots
          K2 BFC 100 Grip walk sole , Dynafit CR Radical AT boot, Ride Insano Snowboard boots
          Bindings:
          Zero Pro Non release Binding
          Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
          Spruce Riser with Attack 14 GW /AT binding
          Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)
          Rocker and Sbol Soft Boot Bindings.

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          • #6
            Oh, you have the Claws. I still have the Originals.
            Current: '20 Spruce Slingshot 119s, '20 Spruce Crossbow 115s, '18 Spruce Osprey 132s (touring), '21 Rvl8 SII 104s, '21 Summit Invertigos 118s
            Also: '11 Allz Elaila 94s, '12 Rvl8 Rockered Condor 110s, '15 Spruce Osprey 132s , '18 Spruce Crossbow 115s
            Previous: Gaspo Hot Wax 84s, Mantrax 98s, Summit Nomad 99s, Spruce Yellow 120s, Eman Uprise 104s

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ysb33r View Post
              Oh, you have the Claws. I still have the Originals.
              Yes,I found the claws a significant improvement over the original . They help with the ski boards traversing where as the originals only helped mainly with going straight up hill.

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              Boards :
              Blunt Xl, DLP, Spliff, Condor, Rockered Condor , Slingshot, Sherpa, Icelantic Shaman
              Boots
              K2 BFC 100 Grip walk sole , Dynafit CR Radical AT boot, Ride Insano Snowboard boots
              Bindings:
              Zero Pro Non release Binding
              Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
              Spruce Riser with Attack 14 GW /AT binding
              Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)
              Rocker and Sbol Soft Boot Bindings.

              Comment

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