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2 things:
I believe they come with a sole insert to adjust the volume. To get the liner out is possible, but it's a lot of work. (there's a plastic thing to twist & align first)
Good luck w/ the new boots. Just skied on them this past weekend, and the comfort is still there.
Mike
By any chance, did they come with extra standard din toe pieces?
(oh, and my 2nd point from my previous post was that I bought an extra sole insert to take up a bit more volume than what came w/ the boot. That made it fit perfect.)
(oh, and my 2nd point from my previous post was that I bought an extra sole insert to take up a bit more volume than what came w/ the boot. That made it fit perfect.)
Mike
I received a sole insert with the boots. My liner doesn't come out. It's riveted in. Does your liner come out or did you put it on top of the insole? The boot is very light and seems fairly stiff. It didn't come with gripwalk soles.
I received a sole insert with the boots. My liner doesn't come out. It's riveted in. Does your liner come out or did you put it on top of the insole? The boot is very light and seems fairly stiff. It didn't come with gripwalk soles.
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My liner definitely comes out. I can't imagine they'd make a boot with a liner that is stuck in place. I've attached a pic (from a website) here to show where that plastic piece is you rotate 90 degrees to release the liner. If you have that, and the boot is loose from the rear shell, then it's just a matter of using gorilla strength to get it out.
Loosen it all the way up, and push the liner in the direction of the toe (from the rear to the front) while pulling slightly upward.
My last piece of advice is to contact the store that sold it to you, or contact Atomic.
When I got the boot, I was convinced the liner couldn't be removed, so I contacted the online ski store. The guy on the phone walked to their stock, pulled one out, and did it right there. I actually called him back twice saying mine doesn't come out. . . "you must be doing something differently than me!". LOL
My liner definitely comes out. I can't imagine they'd make a boot with a liner that is stuck in place. I've attached a pic (from a website) here to show where that plastic piece is you rotate 90 degrees to release the liner. If you have that, and the boot is loose from the rear shell, then it's just a matter of using gorilla strength to get it out.
Loosen it all the way up, and push the liner in the direction of the toe (from the rear to the front) while pulling slightly upward.
My last piece of advice is to contact the store that sold it to you, or contact Atomic.
When I got the boot, I was convinced the liner couldn't be removed, so I contacted the online ski store. The guy on the phone walked to their stock, pulled one out, and did it right there. I actually called him back twice saying mine doesn't come out. . . "you must be doing something differently than me!". LOL
I think mine is different. Here are photos. You can see the rivet on the side also. This is a 2021 model.
That's a bit of a let down. I hope the boots still work for you.
I went out today. 10 inches of powder with a firm base underneath. These boots are light to walk in and very comfortable. Because of the roomy toe box, they took a bit getting used to skiing. Last is 104. I need to put in the footbed to tighten them around my toes. The liners seemed to pack out really quickly. There are no hot spots unlike all the 4 buckle boots I've owned. They are plenty stiff, but I had to get used to turning from my cuff instead of my feet. I'm used to turning using pressure on the balls of my feet. So much so that in moguls, I often get cramps in my feet. I couldn't ski like I do in my other boots with so much play in my toes. They are also very upright. I had to consciously lean forward. Otherwise, I felt like I was on my heels. These aren't bad boots. Way better than the Alpinas. I need the make the foot bed adjustment. My buddy that owns these boots skied with me today. His are 2020 models. The liners are removable. He said he's got more room and needs to put in foot beds too. I think if one has really wide feet and can't fit anything, these are worth trying. If one loves really tight stiff boots, these are not for you. If you snowboard and are used to turning with your cuffs, you may really like these.
I went out today. 10 inches of powder with a firm base underneath. These boots are light to walk in and very comfortable. Because of the roomy toe box, they took a bit getting used to skiing. Last is 104. I need to put in the footbed to tighten them around my toes. The liners seemed to pack out really quickly. There are no hot spots unlike all the 4 buckle boots I've owned. They are plenty stiff, but I had to get used to turning from my cuff instead of my feet. I'm used to turning using pressure on the balls of my feet. So much so that in moguls, I often get cramps in my feet. I couldn't ski like I do in my other boots with so much play in my toes. They are also very upright. I had to consciously lean forward. Otherwise, I felt like I was on my heels. These aren't bad boots. Way better than the Alpinas. I need the make the foot bed adjustment. My buddy that owns these boots skied with me today. His are 2020 models. The liners are removable. He said he's got more room and needs to put in foot beds too. I think if one has really wide feet and can't fit anything, these are worth trying. If one loves really tight stiff boots, these are not for you. If you snowboard and are used to turning with your cuffs, you may really like these.
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The only drawback to not having removable that I can think of is that you need to use a boot dryer if they get wet. They stayed dry today.
The only drawback to not having removable that I can think of is that you need to use a boot dryer if they get wet. They stayed dry today.
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Got home from my trip and put a pair of Superfeet greens that I had in the boots. I think this is going to do the trick. Heels on the Superfeet are almost 1/4" thick so I have a little more forward lean now. It's more of what I'm used to. The boot is now very snug against the top of my foot. Heels barely move. The fit is now like my other boots. Width was not affected and is great. More to come when I can get out again.
Wendel, I just don't believe these liners are not removable. They look essentially like the Salomon SX7s that I had (vintage from eBay). You posted a pic of the back of the boot which shows, near the top, a vertical bar, then a horizontal bar, then another vertical. To take the liner out, twist the horizontal middle bar vertical and push it into the boot. Reverse the procedure when you put the liner back. I could be wrong, but it sure looks exactly the same as my vintage pair.
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That rivet has the liner attached to it. That's the only purpose. Yes. It's hard to believe that Atomic did this considering the 2020 boot does not have the rivet and is removable . Good news is that the Superfeet foot beds really firmed up the boot around my toes. I skied them very comfortably all day today. I could ski this boot like my other pairs. These boots are pretty good if you can dial in the fit. I think Atomic did a good design that's going to appeal to a lot of skiers. When you get off the slopes, you can hit the single buckle release and walk much easier.
I found that my own, Mondo 26.5 size boot is 1.83kg/boot.
So the 1.76kg/boot is likely to be the weight of the Mondo 25.5 (25-25.5 shell size) boot or even the smaller, Mondo 24-24.5 shell size?
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