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  • #16
    Wow, my first post on the site and I got a sticky (I don't even know what one of these is!). I've just found out at the ski show in London that Salomon are now selling conversion kits so that you can unscrew the non-releaseable bindings and screw on the releaseable ones. These kits are retailing for about 65, and apparently you just unscrew the non-releasables, and screw in the new ones.

    I talked to the Salomon reps at the show and asked them how this was likely to affect the performance, weight and centring abilities of the snowblades, but they weren't able to tell me anything, so do you guys know if this is a good idea or not? I'm a girl, I won't be jumping, railing or doing any fancy things with these, I just bought them so that I could use them on blue, green and red slopes with friends who are not wanting to 'properly' ski, so I'm only ever planning to use them on piste.

    A good idea, or a waste of money and a safety hazard? What do you think? I'm not willing to shell out the cash without knowing if this is a good idea or not.
    Last edited by Officewallah; 10-16-2005, 01:06 PM.

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    • #17
      For 65 just for the kit, it would be cheaper to get the spruce boards with risers. Thats a lot of money for a novelty.

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      • #18
        Definently not worth it. If your looking for releasables...just get spruces...I think everyone on this forum that has them likes them.

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        • #19
          true dat. never an unhappy customer.

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          • #20
            Well, im very happy. The ball has started rolling on a deal for me to get last years SnowJam 90's lightly used for $70. Ive just got to sell me Snowblades and then ill be on SnowJams come first snowfall if all goes well, yes!
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            • #21
              in a different thread someone asked about 8 hole vs. 4 hole boards. (8 hole boards require the bindings attach with 8 screws, usually directly into the board without inserts. 4 hole boards have 4 metal inserts manufactured into the boards which you screw 4 hole bindings into)


              8 hole insert boards are definitely inferior to 4 hole, for a number of reasons:

              1. 8 hole boards spread the contact area of the bindings over a larger area meaning less of the board can flex meaning the ride isn't as good, especially for carving.

              2. The only companies that make boards with 8 hole inserts choose to use foam cores which do not provide even, lasting or consistent flex and aren't as strong which equals more potential for breakage.

              3. No company makes replacement parts or replacement 8 hole bindings. Which means if you ever brake an 8 hole binding you have to buy new bindings AND boards. And, since all 8 hole bindings are made of cheap plastic it's more likely they will break.

              4. The universal 4 hole insert pattern is an industry standard and is used by ALL core skiboarding companies. Which means you can interchange bindings and boards and even upgrade your boards and/or bindings independently from each other.

              There really is no reason to buy foam core boards that use 8 hole plastic binding when you can buy high quality, wood core boards that use 4 hole all metal bindings for the same price or less.

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              • #22
                Hi officew. I dont know if you are still monitoring this thread, but if you are, here is my 2 cents worth. First, you already have your Snowblades, and seem happy with them, which is fine. Probably most of the respondents here started out on Snowblades. Yes, you can fit the Salomon release kit to your boards using nothing more than a screwdriver, and at 65 for the complete kit including a release binding, it aint bad value. It complicates the issue for us living in the UK because there are currently no "propper" skiboard outlets, but a possible upgrade path for you, should you feel the need in the future, might be to get the Line Pros from Snow and Rock, which I think retail at about 160. They come standard with a Salomon plastic binding, but the holes are also compatible with the Salomon release kit. So, you could plan toward ending up with a wide body symetrical "propper" skiboard by buying the release kit now and fitting them to your existing Snowblades, which will work just fine, then maybe getting a set of Line Pros in the spring sales if you wish to upgrade.
                Also, Salomon make a 90cm symetrical board called the SB9, which is a fine little board and often overlooked. Again, they are available in the UK, often quite cheaply, and the release kit fits straight on. I have ridden the SB9, and was pleasantly surprised by how balanced it felt.
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                • #23
                  cheers Valmorel, I looked at the other replies, and to be honest, it seems that the spruce bindings and risers that some were recommending costs much more than the Salomon conversion kit and not available in the UK anyway, it seems. I am happy with the snowblades, actually, I think they're a real laugh and I'm sure once I can work out how to use them properly, I'll have even more fun (I can't understand why everyone keeps saying they're easier than skis, I don't think so at all!). It's interesting how Salomon aren't actually publishing any information about the conversion kit, I guess I'll stick a kit on my Xmas list and see what Santa brings.

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                  • #24
                    I used to rent saloman snowblades. Boy did i hate their bindings, They even popped off twice on me when they were attatched correctly.

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                    • #25
                      I have a trip planned this winter for Killington, VT and im looking into buying myself some skiboards. I have been skiing for 9-10 years and just recently picked up on skiboarding (1-2 yrs). I was lookin at Salomon blades online, when I came across this site. I read the forums and have decided to go with a pair of skiboards from here. When I use the rentals from the mountains, I typically find myself on black diamonds but their skiboards dont provide me with as much control and feel as I would like. I also have some experience with terrain parks, but my main goal is to find a pair that best suits my needs. Im open to any and all suggestions. Thanks all

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                      • #26
                        i used to ride salomon and now i ride line.

                        Lines are wider than Salomon
                        Line has 4 holes compared to Salomons 8
                        Put both up against the wall and the Lines will bend way more than the Salomons.
                        Line has equal tip and tail height over Salomon.

                        Im not selling Line but just using it as an example. Line,Epic,Loken and others outpreform Salomon.
                        06 Line Pro 99cm

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                        • #27
                          i used to ride salomon and now i ride line.

                          Lines are wider than Salomon
                          Line has 4 holes compared to Salomons 8
                          Put both up against the wall and the Lines will bend way more than the Salomons.
                          Line has equal tip and tail height over Salomon.

                          Im not selling Line but just using it as an example. Line,Epic,Loken and others outpreform Salomon.
                          06 Line Pro 99cm

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                          • #28
                            yeah but that only applies to lines made before like 2003, new lines no longer use the 4x4 pattern, you're stuck with cheap, plastic 8 hole bindings now. a true decline.

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                            Last edited by Greco; 11-16-2005, 03:17 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Thats true but i have the new 06 lines and even with 8 still have more flex than my salomons.
                              06 Line Pro 99cm

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                              • #30
                                nick, we'll ride at thunderridge when it opens and i'll let you demo some 4 hole skiboards.

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