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  • Skiboard Crampons with Retrofit Tour Binding

    One of the most useful tools in ski mountaineering are ski crampons . Skiers ascending difficulty steep icy slopes use them as do Splitboard snowboarders.
    Here is a some information on these very useful tools that have saved my bacon many a time .

    http://www.alpineskills.com/techtip_skicrampons.html

    I am very excited about the retrofit touring option for skiboards. and have now worked out crampon attachment options for Zero bindings, Bomber Bindings , and for Line FF pro bindings. Let me give you a tour .

    On Zero , Bomber, or Phiokka bindings that have extra insert holes for varying set backs , these holes can be put to good use by putting a machine screw upside down from the bottom up with the screw end sticking up out of the hole , a nut is used on the binding side to keep the screw up against the bottom of the binding and sticking out of the hole .. This screw is left in the binding all the time and does not get in the way for regular skiboarding .

    Here is the Bomber binding with a machine screw up out of one of the unused insert holes


    A ski crampon with a hole drilled to match the insert hole is placed over the screw and tightened down using a wingnut .


    Easy on and easy off as needed in the field .


    On the Line FF pro , there are already machine screw holes unused in the center of the binding, originally used for attaching a grind plate . .


    An appropriate width ski crampon is purchased .
    A hole is drilled to match the grind plate hole and the crampon is placed over the hole .


    A M6 machine screw is used to tighten the crampon down , again easy on and easy off in the field .



    Here is crampon equipped , touring binding equipped Bomber ready for climbing


    Here is the Line FF pro crampon equipped touring skiboard ready for action as well .
    Boards :
    Spliffs
    Condors
    Crossbows
    Sherpa

    Boot:
    K2 BFC 100

    Bindings:
    Zero Pro Non release Binding
    Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
    Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
    Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

  • #2
    Where to buy the Touring Gear

    Voile telemark cables
    ( need to buy two of these )
    http://www.voile-usa.com/Merchant2/m...roduct_Count=0

    B and D Superfat crampons .. the 120 version can be bent a bit to fit the KTP , see pics above and I plan to get the 135 version and bend it a bit for the Condor , the one I am using on the Condor is discontinued Rossi Freeventure skiboard crampon .
    http://www.bndskigear.com/fatcrampons.html

    Climbing skins . cheapest source is Climbing skins direct
    https://www.climbingskinsdirect.com/
    Boards :
    Spliffs
    Condors
    Crossbows
    Sherpa

    Boot:
    K2 BFC 100

    Bindings:
    Zero Pro Non release Binding
    Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
    Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
    Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

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    • #3
      thats cool as hell. You know I love the back country and in the spring when it melts and freezes every day those would be very usefull. I used to have a pair of crampons that actually fit my line transfer boot. I used them on tucks in the late 90s. nice job man
      live it, love it,rip it!!

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      • #4
        So, one screw per board is enough to hold the crampon securely for climbing? I would think that it would act like a pivot point for the plate to flex on, but then again I've never used crampons, so I don't know how stiff they are.
        RVL8 Condors - The Flex will be with me, always...until I break them

        Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming... "WOW! WHAT A RIDE!!"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CrazyBoy-1 View Post
          So, one screw per board is enough to hold the crampon securely for climbing? I would think that it would act like a pivot point for the plate to flex on, but then again I've never used crampons, so I don't know how stiff they are.
          If the crampons fit tight around the boards then they do not pivot much ,the board edge blocks the pivoting , but two screws will be better like you say , Crazy boy .. ( I hand drilled the holes and it is very tiring work .. so I stopped at one !) , Bill Bollinger at B and D ski gear will add custom holes 2cm to either side of mid line to hold two screws. for 5 dollars additional on his 135 cm superfat crampons .. I have ordered a pair with two holes to fit the Condor and will post a picture when I get them ... since all skiboard bindings with extra holes have them set in a standard 4x4 pattern , the crampons will be interchangeable whether I use the Bomber or the Line FF pros . another reason the 4x4 insert standard is so cool !
          Boards :
          Spliffs
          Condors
          Crossbows
          Sherpa

          Boot:
          K2 BFC 100

          Bindings:
          Zero Pro Non release Binding
          Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
          Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
          Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

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          • #6
            I see. Thanks for the clarification, Jack.
            RVL8 Condors - The Flex will be with me, always...until I break them

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming... "WOW! WHAT A RIDE!!"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CrazyBoy-1 View Post
              So, one screw per board is enough to hold the crampon securely for climbing? I would think that it would act like a pivot point for the plate to flex on, but then again I've never used crampons, so I don't know how stiff they are.
              Just got the new crampons I ordered from B and D ski gear , super product! went with a two screw solution like Crazyboy mentioned.. and Bill Bollinger also suggested.

              Bill Bollinger at B and D ski gear is a great backcountry innovator and has a variety of great products .. He has produced a superwide ski crampon that is a perfect fit for the waist of the Condor .. although it is listed at 135mm Bill builds his crampon with a about a 3mm tolerance , so that his 135mm crampon will actually fit a bit larger waist .. it fits the 137 waist of the Condor perfectly .. Bill drilled a couple of extra holes at 2cm from center line for me , that line up perfectly with two machine screws that attached through unused insert holes on the Condor binding , couple of wingnuts and a truly "bomber" crampon setup for the Bomber binding !



              Here is a side view to show nice crampon depth even though the crampon is mounted on top of the Bomber binding riser...




              I am just amazed at how well skiboard bindings mate with backcountry gear to create a turnkey , fully functional backcountry binding ..
              Boards :
              Spliffs
              Condors
              Crossbows
              Sherpa

              Boot:
              K2 BFC 100

              Bindings:
              Zero Pro Non release Binding
              Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
              Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
              Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

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              • #8
                I get all excited about this kind of stuff , because it allows you to get uphill efficiently (then the good part comes -going down !) ... here is a video comparing climbers hiking on boot crampons going up mount baker with a pair of skiers with skins and ski crampons going up the same hill . , with skins alone, in spring icy snow , your boards would be slipping , skiboard crampons and a touring binding will allow you to ascend straight up faster then folks hiking up , without having to carry your skiboards on your back and not sinking into the crusty , icy snow as much as with just boots.

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                Boards :
                Spliffs
                Condors
                Crossbows
                Sherpa

                Boot:
                K2 BFC 100

                Bindings:
                Zero Pro Non release Binding
                Modified Receptor Backcountry Bindings (Bill Version and Slow Version)
                Spruce ProPrime Plus Binding/Riser with Attack 13 GW binding
                Custom Risers with Fritschi Backcountry Bindings (Jeff Singer version 1, Bill version)

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